Guided Trips

FISHING REPORT AND SYNOPSIS: 10/17/2017

Fishing is excellent in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park now. We have had a couple of shots of rain the last week and a half which has helped keep the streams flowing strong for this time of year. The cool overnight temperatures will get the brown and brook trout seriously thinking about spawning. Please be careful this time of year and avoid walking on fine sand and gravel in riffles and tailouts. Leave the spawning trout alone so they can do their thing. When you find brook or brown trout that aren't spawning, they are aggressive and looking to feed. Recent guide trips on brook trout waters have been anywhere from good to excellent. Streams with rainbows and browns have been excellent as well. There are good numbers of fish to be caught in the Park right now!

A variety of bugs have been hatching lately. On cloudy days, Blue-winged Olives have hatched along with some other small mayflies. Various caddis, including the Great Autumn Brown Sedges (often referred to as October Caddis by locals) are hatching and provide a nice bite for the trout. Little Black stoneflies are hatching as well. Fish are eating both dry fly and nymph imitations and even still hitting some terrestrials. Don't forget your beetle, ant, and inchworm fly box. A Parachute Adams or Yellow or Orange Stimulator should work well for a dry fly. Smaller bead head Pheasant Tail nymphs should work as a dropper. Caddis pupa are also catching a lot of fish as are stonefly nymphs.

On the Caney Fork, things have been tough lately. The river has been running warmer than is normal this time of year because of heavy generation earlier this year and also with a stain due to the sluice gate operations. Work has been underway to install vented turbines on the generators and they have been working to try and tweak them to improve dissolved oxygen. One day, we were floating and they were checking the DO and found it at 1.5 ppm. If I remember correctly, the minimum target is 6 ppm. Obviously 1.5 is way too low. Trout were sitting along the banks and in back eddies gasping for oxygen. Hopefully all of this won't have too much of a long term effect on the fishery, but needless to say, things are a bit difficult as of right now. Cooler weather should help. Once the lake turns over, oxygen and clarity will improve quickly.

The Clinch River has been fishing well if you can hit it on low water days. Small nymphs and midges will get the job done here.

Smallmouth bass are about done for the year, but we will be back out on the musky streams again soon looking for the toothy critters. This is tough fishing, but the rewards can be sizable.

Photo of the Month: Night Time Hog

Photo of the Month: Night Time Hog

Sunday, August 19, 2007

East Tennessee Disaster

The extended drought is causing conditions to be much worse than I anticipated when I returned from the west. For some reason, my lofty expectations (perhaps wishful thinking) involved stream flows on the Little River approaching normal and even the drought problem to be getting better. Instead, I have returned home to find the exact opposite. The flows on Little River just above Townsend Tennessee are registering at historical all-time lows. With water temperatures spiking into the upper 70's each day, things are getting dicey. Some East Tennessee fisherman still appear to be downplaying the problems even suggesting that good fishing can be found in the park. I believe this is a dangerous stance to take and commend people like Little River Outfitters owner Byron Begley for being honest and encouraging people to stay away until conditions improve. This despite the fact that his business revolves around fly fishing the East Tennessee streams.

Personally, I was looking forward to returning to my home waters, especially the mountain streams of East Tennessee. However, I will not be fishing them until both the flows come up and the temperatures come down. The park streams are already crowded without the low flows. The stress simply from the crowding associated with the extremely low flows is enough to cause problems for the fish. I would encourage anyone thinking of trout fishing here in East Tennessee to consider the tailwaters until conditions improve. In the meantime, be sure to check back here for further reports from my trip west!!!

5 comments:

  1. David: I was a little suprised by Byron's somewhat apocalyptic statement about fishing the park, so I called my friend Ian Rutter (who lives in Townsend and guides/fishes the park more than pretty much anyone).

    The temperature meteByron referred to is outside the park and the only trout you'd find there are stockies.

    Ian's been taking water temperatures inside the park for a couple weeks, and has found that a short trip up the drainage gets you into temps that are maxing out in the upper 60s (often far below that).

    IN fact, he fished a backcountry brookie stream the other day and found 62 degree temperatures.

    I think there's plenty of safe, good fishing available in the park as long as you ignore the lowest elevation streams. I wouldn't touch Little River at Metcalf, but I bet a couple miles above Elkmont it's in great shape.

    Hope you kids get some rain soon. We're suffering a pretty serious drought out here, but fortunately, the Upper Sacramento (my home water) is an interesting combo of a tailwater and freestoner, so the fish are doing just fine.

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  2. TC, I'm sure there is water that is plenty cool enough but I also am concerned about the water levels. With the river this low, it is almost too easy to catch fish and undoubtedly the concentrated fish are competing for proportionally much smaller holding water and food. Honestly, I'm sure you could fish in the areas you mentioned without causing too much trouble for the fish. I'm more concerned about people that don't know any better fishing lower on LR from Elkmont down to Townsend where the large browns lurk. The water particularly below the Sinks and down to the Wye holds some very nice wild fish that are probably having a pretty rough time now.

    I'm definitely with you in hoping for rain. This has been a crazy year with basically the entire west and a large portion of the southeast in a drought. Hopefully things will get back to normal in the near future!

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  3. ijsouth11:23 PM

    No doubt you've been following this debate on the LRO board. I can understand the emotion on both sides. We've been up to the Smokies several times this summer - twice in June, once in July, and once at the beginning of August, before this latest heat wave hit. In June and July we found Little River very low; I fished Tremont one evening in June, and even then, well into the gravel, it was 68F. After that, we avoided that entire area; in July, the level of LR along the road was sickening. We also fished the Cosby area in June, and found the water to be getting very low, although it was still cold. The fish were beginning to be locked in isolated pools - of course, they become easy marks for snakes and birds, so I decided not to fish Cosby until it got some more water.

    For the most part, we stuck to the Straight Fork area on the N.C. side; we found plenty of water and good temps, and pretty good fishing. It was amazing to see the difference in the two sides of the park. At the beginning of August, my oldest daughter and I came up alone for one weekend, mostly to look at property, but also to fish a little. The park had just had a fair amount of rain for a few weeks, and LR looked a lot better. We still didn't fish it - we ended up on Road Prong, and had some success. Since then, there's been no rain and hot temperatures.

    I'm heading up again this weekend - more property to look at. If I get to fish, it will be high up, and if the levels are too low (fish in isolated pools), I won't fish. Hopefully, the mountains will get a little rain before then. The point I tried to make on the thread was, you have to pick your spots, and use your best judgement. Take the temperature, and look at the water. Low water isn't necessarily a no-go, as long as there's still some flow. Frankly, I wouldn't fish Tremont or LR until well into the Fall anyway; I'm not a big fan of performing in front of an audience.

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  4. Ijsouth, I'm not a big fan of the audience either but don't overlook it as a charm in the catching dept. Don't ask why, but the second a crowd gathers, the fish start biting like crazy...

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  5. ijsouth9:26 PM

    I caught my first wild trout in the Smokies at Tremont, at the end of the road, back over last Thanksgiving. However, I caught the trout bug earlier that summer up in SNP, in the headwaters of the Rapidan River. I guess I naturally gravitate to the smaller streams - the more out of the way, the better. Reminds me of when I was a kid, I guess...bushwacking through the woods to get to the next great spot. So, just the thought of fishing by that road, with all those cars, puts me out of my element. When we fished Road Prong three weeks ago, we had a bit of an audience from all the hikers headed for the Chimneys - made me feel like an exhibit at the zoo.

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